Comments on: John Prescott http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2006/05/10/2656 Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:56:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: SmokeNMirrors http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2006/05/10/2656#comment-4317 SmokeNMirrors Fri, 12 May 2006 14:02:49 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2006/05/10/2656#comment-4317 Spot on Yvonne (apart from about the trains; they'd just never run on time!) And your point is? :oD The whole POINT of modern government is to obfuscate matters to the point where everything becomes a quagmire. If ever anyone needed proof that government is NOT of the people and FOR the people, then the actions of the "Labour Government" over the past 9 years provide ample illustrations. While we "ordinary people" have to put up with the constant (and I do mean constant) failings of government, the "cream" of society go about their merry business, not affected by the trials and tribulations that affect us normal folk. For they drive around in their Jags, along specially cleared streets, to tax-payer funded apartments and complexes shut away from the world. And you thought your vote counted? Have no fear; from Old Conservative sleaze and incompetence to New Labour sleaze and incompetence. Next up, it'll be New Conservative sleaze and incompetence, then, when you've all forgotten about New Labour, it'll be time for Old Labour sleaze and incompetence again. The only thing that stays the same is that nothing ever truly changes... Left and right do not matter. Labour or Conservative do not matter. The policies that are followed will be followed regardless of the colour of the incumbent party; you only have to look at how many manifesto promises promptly get broken the instant a party gets into power to see that. What is needed is fundamental electoral reform; whether that would actually happen is debatable, even if voting turnout dropped below 50%. Spot on Yvonne (apart from about the trains; they’d just never run on time!) And your point is? :oD

The whole POINT of modern government is to obfuscate matters to the point where everything becomes a quagmire. If ever anyone needed proof that government is NOT of the people and FOR the people, then the actions of the "Labour Government" over the past 9 years provide ample illustrations. While we "ordinary people" have to put up with the constant (and I do mean constant) failings of government, the "cream" of society go about their merry business, not affected by the trials and tribulations that affect us normal folk. For they drive around in their Jags, along specially cleared streets, to tax-payer funded apartments and complexes shut away from the world. And you thought your vote counted? Have no fear; from Old Conservative sleaze and incompetence to New Labour sleaze and incompetence. Next up, it’ll be New Conservative sleaze and incompetence, then, when you’ve all forgotten about New Labour, it’ll be time for Old Labour sleaze and incompetence again. The only thing that stays the same is that nothing ever truly changes…

Left and right do not matter. Labour or Conservative do not matter. The policies that are followed will be followed regardless of the colour of the incumbent party; you only have to look at how many manifesto promises promptly get broken the instant a party gets into power to see that. What is needed is fundamental electoral reform; whether that would actually happen is debatable, even if voting turnout dropped below 50%.

]]> By: Yvonne Sills http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2006/05/10/2656#comment-4315 Yvonne Sills Thu, 11 May 2006 18:22:06 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2006/05/10/2656#comment-4315 I cannot understand that a member of parliament, indeed, a member of the CABINET is allowed to carry on receiving all the benefits he previously warranted. What sort of government is the LABOUR GOVERNMENT to allow a person to be either sacked/resigned or whatever to receive the self same benefits he was previously entitled to when he was a government minister. Is Tony Blair committing governmental suicide? If any member of the public and I mean PUBLIC would be sacked/resigned they would either receive a one-off payment and then that was it. Tony Blair is taking the P****. I am a member of the public and I am getting fed up to the teeth of all of the shennagigans of government. As far as I am concerned Parliament was formed originally when King John signed the Magna Carta, the Magna Carta has been taken as the rule of law in many, many countries. King James I challenged parliament as did his son, who, incidentally had his head cut of, England committed regicide. I am English, born and bread, it seems that all the money that is being paid by us "minions" is being spent on people to have two jags, flats in London and mansion in the southern counties, and in effect being paid \xA3600,000 per annum by us poor fools, who put up with it. I am not a racist but your government have allowed all these people into my country, people who have developed their own communities, not even wanted to intergrate, when you drive through the areas they live, it is rubbish in the streets. When I was a child our streets were clean. Do I have to say "I am glad I am 59 years old, not to see the degregation of my homeland? People who want to challenge the government concerning these comments are called racist. I feel that the English people of this country are the same as the Jewish people in Germany, without any struggle they got on the trains, the trains that took them to their death. Governmental policy in this, MY COUNTRY, THE COUNTRY OF MY BIRTH. is creating an ethnic policy of eradicating the true english people. I cannot understand that a member of parliament, indeed, a member of the CABINET is allowed to carry on receiving all the benefits he previously warranted. What sort of government is the LABOUR GOVERNMENT to allow a person to be either sacked/resigned or whatever to receive the self same benefits he was previously entitled to when he was a government minister. Is Tony Blair committing governmental suicide? If any member of the public and I mean PUBLIC would be sacked/resigned they would either receive a one-off payment and then that was it. Tony Blair is taking the P****. I am a member of the public and I am getting fed up to the teeth of all of the shennagigans of government.

As far as I am concerned Parliament was formed originally when King John signed the Magna Carta, the Magna Carta has been taken as the rule of law in many, many countries. King James I challenged parliament as did his son, who, incidentally had his head cut of, England committed regicide.

I am English, born and bread, it seems that all the money that is being paid by us "minions" is being spent on people to have two jags, flats in London and mansion in the southern counties, and in effect being paid \xA3600,000 per annum by us poor fools, who put up with it. I am not a racist but your government have allowed all these people into my country, people who have developed their own communities, not even wanted to intergrate, when you drive through the areas they live, it is rubbish in the streets. When I was a child our streets were clean. Do I have to say "I am glad I am 59 years old, not to see the degregation of my homeland?

People who want to challenge the government concerning these comments are called racist. I feel that the English people of this country are the same as the Jewish people in Germany, without any struggle they got on the trains, the trains that took them to their death. Governmental policy in this, MY COUNTRY, THE COUNTRY OF MY BIRTH. is creating an ethnic policy of eradicating the true english people.

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