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	<description>Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'.</description>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3779</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who wants to bet an &#34;incident&#34; will occur pretty soon which will force the whole issue back to the table? It'll be serious enough that the government &#34;will have no choice&#34; but to look again at the 90-day internment plans.

There is plenty of recent historical precendent. On 1st November, John Howard needed the help of a supposed Al Qaeda threat whilst attempting to rush through an amendment to the anti-terrorism laws in Oz. Needless to say, nothing was done about the standing threat level at the time; even experts remarked on this strange inconsistency. On 21st July the 90-day detention plans were actually being debated when the second London false-flag attack happened. And pretty much every single piece of (mostly dodgy) legislation George Bush has touched in the past 5 years has been preceded by some non-specific &#34;Al Qaeda&#34; threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who wants to bet an &quot;incident&quot; will occur pretty soon which will force the whole issue back to the table? It&#8217;ll be serious enough that the government &quot;will have no choice&quot; but to look again at the 90-day internment plans.</p>
<p>There is plenty of recent historical precendent. On 1st November, John Howard needed the help of a supposed Al Qaeda threat whilst attempting to rush through an amendment to the anti-terrorism laws in Oz. Needless to say, nothing was done about the standing threat level at the time; even experts remarked on this strange inconsistency. On 21st July the 90-day detention plans were actually being debated when the second London false-flag attack happened. And pretty much every single piece of (mostly dodgy) legislation George Bush has touched in the past 5 years has been preceded by some non-specific &quot;Al Qaeda&quot; threat.</p>
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		<title>By: harry booth</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3778</link>
		<author>harry booth</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3778</guid>
		<description>Did I just read 
&#34;that was the professional judgment of Chief Constable of Greater Manchester. People with real experience in the field.&#34;
Please please do not make me laugh this much. This senior officer has recently endorsed a view that a victim of crime cannot describe the alledged criminal as fat.
For F**cks sake - are we that far down the road of having our security decided by B Liar and his muppets, is the whole country blind to this crap?
Bollocks to it.
Of to retire in Spain, just decide which bank to hit first for the finance, 
MMMM??? Stocking over the head or Dubya mask??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I just read<br />
&quot;that was the professional judgment of Chief Constable of Greater Manchester. People with real experience in the field.&quot;<br />
Please please do not make me laugh this much. This senior officer has recently endorsed a view that a victim of crime cannot describe the alledged criminal as fat.<br />
For F**cks sake - are we that far down the road of having our security decided by B Liar and his muppets, is the whole country blind to this crap?<br />
Bollocks to it.<br />
Of to retire in Spain, just decide which bank to hit first for the finance,<br />
MMMM??? Stocking over the head or Dubya mask??</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Unsworth</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3773</link>
		<author>Chuck Unsworth</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3773</guid>
		<description>- Steady on, lad.  You'll being doing yourself an injury next.  Just remember you're better alive and kicking (arses) than dead and silent!

Mind you, I agree entirely.  Michael Mansfield's comments yesterday were pretty much to the point....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Steady on, lad.  You&#8217;ll being doing yourself an injury next.  Just remember you&#8217;re better alive and kicking (arses) than dead and silent!</p>
<p>Mind you, I agree entirely.  Michael Mansfield&#8217;s comments yesterday were pretty much to the point&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3771</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3771</guid>
		<description>&#34;Asked if the Prime Minister would be meeting anyone today on this issue, the PMOS said that the Prime Minister would have discussions with whoever he whoever he would have discussions with, but people could take it that this was pretty high on his agenda&#34;

...&#34;because without these measures, it will be difficult for us to continue to ride roughshod over human rights and habeas corpus in any case where some pesky civilian gets too close to the truth about our supposed &#34;war on terra&#34;. And this in turn will hamper our efforts to further the NeoCon agenda in Washington, which might jeopardise Tone's job offer. And we don't want that, because he's SUCH a bitch while Cherie earns more than him...&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Asked if the Prime Minister would be meeting anyone today on this issue, the PMOS said that the Prime Minister would have discussions with whoever he whoever he would have discussions with, but people could take it that this was pretty high on his agenda&quot;</p>
<p>&#8230;&quot;because without these measures, it will be difficult for us to continue to ride roughshod over human rights and habeas corpus in any case where some pesky civilian gets too close to the truth about our supposed &quot;war on terra&quot;. And this in turn will hamper our efforts to further the NeoCon agenda in Washington, which might jeopardise Tone&#8217;s job offer. And we don&#8217;t want that, because he&#8217;s SUCH a bitch while Cherie earns more than him&#8230;&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3770</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3770</guid>
		<description>&#34;Asked if there was concerned that this wouldn't be compatible with the Human Rights Act, the PMOS said that all legislation had to be compatible with the Human Rights Act. That went on the front of the bill.&#34;

Asked if there was concerned that this wouldn't be compatible with the Human Rights Act, the PMOS said &#34;Human Rights Act? F*ck the Human Rights Act! We're the government, for Christs' sake!&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Asked if there was concerned that this wouldn&#8217;t be compatible with the Human Rights Act, the PMOS said that all legislation had to be compatible with the Human Rights Act. That went on the front of the bill.&quot;</p>
<p>Asked if there was concerned that this wouldn&#8217;t be compatible with the Human Rights Act, the PMOS said &quot;Human Rights Act? F*ck the Human Rights Act! We&#8217;re the government, for Christs&#8217; sake!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3769</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3769</guid>
		<description>&#34;As they Prime Minister said yesterday, Parliament would decide what Parliament decides but we should not kid ourselves, anything less than 90 days was going to be second best for the security of the country.&#34;

Don't worry too much about that though, because the government's own actions in ignoring the rest of us have supposedly put us all in greater danger than anything the police do or don't do, according to many eminent sources since the invasion of Iraq. I say &#34;supposedly&#34;, because I don't believe for a second that the recent &#34;terrorism&#34; attacks in London were anything more than an inside job by the lying bastards who run our country and who will do anything (hear me? ANYTHING!) to protect themselves from the crimes they have committed thus far - including lying their way to war and continuing to lie about the aftermath. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;As they Prime Minister said yesterday, Parliament would decide what Parliament decides but we should not kid ourselves, anything less than 90 days was going to be second best for the security of the country.&quot;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry too much about that though, because the government&#8217;s own actions in ignoring the rest of us have supposedly put us all in greater danger than anything the police do or don&#8217;t do, according to many eminent sources since the invasion of Iraq. I say &quot;supposedly&quot;, because I don&#8217;t believe for a second that the recent &quot;terrorism&quot; attacks in London were anything more than an inside job by the lying bastards who run our country and who will do anything (hear me? ANYTHING!) to protect themselves from the crimes they have committed thus far - including lying their way to war and continuing to lie about the aftermath.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3768</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3768</guid>
		<description>&#34;that was the professional judgment of Chief Constable of Greater Manchester. People with real experience in the field.&#34;

I thought this was a whole new ballgame, all this terrorism and police killing people in the street malarky. So how can they have &#34;real experience&#34; in it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;that was the professional judgment of Chief Constable of Greater Manchester. People with real experience in the field.&quot;</p>
<p>I thought this was a whole new ballgame, all this terrorism and police killing people in the street malarky. So how can they have &quot;real experience&quot; in it?</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3767</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3767</guid>
		<description>&#34;. Put to him that ordinarily bills came with hundreds of pages of research and analysis behind them whereas this very important legislation arrived with little more than a memo, the PMOS said that some people might be dismissive of the experience of the Chief of the Metropolitan police anti-terrorist unit, he was not.&#34;

Because even though he has so far lied in public and expressed a total lack of remorse at a public execution carried out on his orders, he's perfect for our purposes because he's pliant and does what he's told. Even if it means having to nobble evidence; he doesn't bat an eyelid. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;. Put to him that ordinarily bills came with hundreds of pages of research and analysis behind them whereas this very important legislation arrived with little more than a memo, the PMOS said that some people might be dismissive of the experience of the Chief of the Metropolitan police anti-terrorist unit, he was not.&quot;</p>
<p>Because even though he has so far lied in public and expressed a total lack of remorse at a public execution carried out on his orders, he&#8217;s perfect for our purposes because he&#8217;s pliant and does what he&#8217;s told. Even if it means having to nobble evidence; he doesn&#8217;t bat an eyelid.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3766</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3766</guid>
		<description>&#34;Asked about comments by John Denham who had said that there didn't appear to be sufficient documentary evidence behind the proposal, the PMOS pointed out that Andy Hayman had published the police argument on the 5th October.&#34;

Asked how many contrary viewpoints the government had considered, the PMOS replied testily: &#34;For f*cks sake, leave my Tony alone! It's really not his idea, it's the police's, and anyone who doesn't believe him can go and ask his police chief, clone &#38; wife Mrs. Ian Bliar; she'll tell you, if she knows anything about it...&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Asked about comments by John Denham who had said that there didn&#8217;t appear to be sufficient documentary evidence behind the proposal, the PMOS pointed out that Andy Hayman had published the police argument on the 5th October.&quot;</p>
<p>Asked how many contrary viewpoints the government had considered, the PMOS replied testily: &quot;For f*cks sake, leave my Tony alone! It&#8217;s really not his idea, it&#8217;s the police&#8217;s, and anyone who doesn&#8217;t believe him can go and ask his police chief, clone &amp; wife Mrs. Ian Bliar; she&#8217;ll tell you, if she knows anything about it&#8230;&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3765</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/08/1921#comment-3765</guid>
		<description>&#34;He reminded journalists that it was the police who had put the case to the Government, not the other way around. He stressed that this had been a police initiative not a Government initiative. He didn't think that anyone had ever heard him make a case for anything other than 90 days. Once the Prime Minister became convinced that the police case was compelling, we had made the case for 90 days.&#34;

Because, as we all know, Tony Bliar is well known for his championing of unpopular causes, and the energy he has always put in to highlighting public concerns in the commons. As soon as he realised there was something missing from our daily life (the security of knowing people can be locked up without trial), he decided to battle tooth and nail to right that wrong. Next week he will be introducing the deeply unpopular measure of having every tree in the country topped, because so many old ladies have written in saying their cats have gotten stuck. And after that, he is thinking about abolishing income tax, because he knows how much we all hate it. He says he understands, and not to worry because he's on the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;He reminded journalists that it was the police who had put the case to the Government, not the other way around. He stressed that this had been a police initiative not a Government initiative. He didn&#8217;t think that anyone had ever heard him make a case for anything other than 90 days. Once the Prime Minister became convinced that the police case was compelling, we had made the case for 90 days.&quot;</p>
<p>Because, as we all know, Tony Bliar is well known for his championing of unpopular causes, and the energy he has always put in to highlighting public concerns in the commons. As soon as he realised there was something missing from our daily life (the security of knowing people can be locked up without trial), he decided to battle tooth and nail to right that wrong. Next week he will be introducing the deeply unpopular measure of having every tree in the country topped, because so many old ladies have written in saying their cats have gotten stuck. And after that, he is thinking about abolishing income tax, because he knows how much we all hate it. He says he understands, and not to worry because he&#8217;s on the case.</p>
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