Comments on: Anti-Terror Legislation http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/04/1915 Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:57:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Julian Todd http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/04/1915#comment-3751 Julian Todd Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:26:43 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/04/1915#comment-3751 This excuse of sifting through computer evidence is bogus. There's a law to compel people to turn it over already -- oddly not yet in force, yet still being amended by this Bill: <a href="http://theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2005-11-03a.1040.0">http://theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2005-11-03a.1040.0</a> -- which would mean you would be guilty if you did not turn over the keys for decryption to them. It seems reasonable that you could be charged and found guilty on this offence without the need of three months of bunglingly slow Kafka-esque gathering of evidence involving the printing out and reading of your hard disk one page at a time. "I'm sorry, you have been found guilty of police incompetance. Your sentence is three months detention without bail." There is no excuse, they have no excuse, for pressing this measure. They're making things up, and are rubbish at it. This excuse of sifting through computer evidence is bogus. There’s a law to compel people to turn it over already — oddly not yet in force, yet still being amended by this Bill:

<a href="http://theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2005-11-03a.1040.0">http://theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2005-11-03a.1040.0</a>

– which would mean you would be guilty if you did not turn over the keys for decryption to them. It seems reasonable that you could be charged and found guilty on this offence without the need of three months of bunglingly slow Kafka-esque gathering of evidence involving the printing out and reading of your hard disk one page at a time.

"I’m sorry, you have been found guilty of police incompetance. Your sentence is three months detention without bail."

There is no excuse, they have no excuse, for pressing this measure. They’re making things up, and are rubbish at it.

]]> By: Antipholus Papps http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/04/1915#comment-3749 Antipholus Papps Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:03:00 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/04/1915#comment-3749 Adolf Hitler secured his dictatorship through the enabling act, which only gained support by constant fearmongering about terrorism and the unique threat posed by 'terrorists'. You'd have thought we'd have learnt about this at school, wouldn't you? This is the land of Habeas Corpus. It must not happen here. Adolf Hitler secured his dictatorship through the enabling act, which only gained support by constant fearmongering about terrorism and the unique threat posed by ‘terrorists’. You’d have thought we’d have learnt about this at school, wouldn’t you? This is the land of Habeas Corpus. It must not happen here.

]]> By: PapaLazzzaru http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/04/1915#comment-3745 PapaLazzzaru Mon, 07 Nov 2005 13:16:00 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/11/04/1915#comment-3745 "As he had said yesterday the key issue was not 90 days but rather if they were against 90 days how then would we meet the needs of the police to have longer to sift and collate evidence given the complexity and the degree of threat this new kind of terrorism posed." Easy. Tell the police to stop being so bloody incompetent and wasting their time running round London shooting all and sundry, and do their job. And if part of their job means having to get the job done in the same amount of time they've always failed to do their job, then tough frigging titty, Tony; get used to it. 90 days my arse! And even more "my arse" is the thought that it was the police who dreamt up the 90 day thing and not Tony Bliar. Get off it Tony, do you really expect us to believe a) a word you say about anything, and b) that the police, especially senior police like "sir" Ian Bliar, are capable of thinking about anything but their own pensions and titles? "As he had said yesterday the key issue was not 90 days but rather if they were against 90 days how then would we meet the needs of the police to have longer to sift and collate evidence given the complexity and the degree of threat this new kind of terrorism posed."

Easy. Tell the police to stop being so bloody incompetent and wasting their time running round London shooting all and sundry, and do their job. And if part of their job means having to get the job done in the same amount of time they’ve always failed to do their job, then tough frigging titty, Tony; get used to it. 90 days my arse! And even more "my arse" is the thought that it was the police who dreamt up the 90 day thing and not Tony Bliar. Get off it Tony, do you really expect us to believe a) a word you say about anything, and b) that the police, especially senior police like "sir" Ian Bliar, are capable of thinking about anything but their own pensions and titles?

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