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	<title>Comments on: Police Powers</title>
	<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824</link>
	<description>Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'.</description>
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		<title>By: Tasty Macfadden</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3715</link>
		<author>Tasty Macfadden</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3715</guid>
		<description>Anybody else notice how Jack Straw has grown to resemble Himmler? Its the glasses, the wet lipped sibilants and the overdressed Nazi-chic that does it; he'll be wearing gloves next, they may not be made from the skin of sub-human Iraqi children, but they may as well be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody else notice how Jack Straw has grown to resemble Himmler? Its the glasses, the wet lipped sibilants and the overdressed Nazi-chic that does it; he&#8217;ll be wearing gloves next, they may not be made from the skin of sub-human Iraqi children, but they may as well be.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3713</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3713</guid>
		<description>&#34;If, god forbid, something happened because we did not introduce the extra powers, then where would the public point the finger?&#34;

Like the government gives a shit about what the public thinks! If they did they'd think twice about the course of action they embarked upon when Tony got back from Dubya's knees-up in summer 2002; namely, to get a slice of the pie (or so they hoped!) by tagging along with the Neocon PNAC cabal which now runs the USA. Or doesn't run it, as Hurricane Katrina showed all too clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;If, god forbid, something happened because we did not introduce the extra powers, then where would the public point the finger?&quot;</p>
<p>Like the government gives a shit about what the public thinks! If they did they&#8217;d think twice about the course of action they embarked upon when Tony got back from Dubya&#8217;s knees-up in summer 2002; namely, to get a slice of the pie (or so they hoped!) by tagging along with the Neocon PNAC cabal which now runs the USA. Or doesn&#8217;t run it, as Hurricane Katrina showed all too clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3712</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3712</guid>
		<description>&#34;Asked why the Prime Minister was saying that he hadn't heard any arguments against the measures when the Attorney General was known to be against them, the PMOS said that he didn't comment on what the Attorney General says.&#34;

LMAO! 

Tony Bliar; &#34;I meant REAL opposition. And anyway, I don't listen to opposition. Specially not from my own mates!&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Asked why the Prime Minister was saying that he hadn&#8217;t heard any arguments against the measures when the Attorney General was known to be against them, the PMOS said that he didn&#8217;t comment on what the Attorney General says.&quot;</p>
<p>LMAO! </p>
<p>Tony Bliar; &quot;I meant REAL opposition. And anyway, I don&#8217;t listen to opposition. Specially not from my own mates!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3711</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3711</guid>
		<description>&#34;In terms of suicide bombers you had to intervene at a much earlier stage, before you could gather evidence, because if you left it the chances were that they would carry out their attack&#34;

How bloody convenient!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;In terms of suicide bombers you had to intervene at a much earlier stage, before you could gather evidence, because if you left it the chances were that they would carry out their attack&quot;</p>
<p>How bloody convenient!</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3710</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3710</guid>
		<description>&#34;The Prime Minister was simply saying that those who objected to this legislation should provide an alternative argument to how else the problems we faced could be solved&#34;

Easy. Sack the government, including any MP who voted against the wishes of their constituents and for the illegal invasion of Iraq. Try the government, especially Tony Bliar and Jack Straw, for war crimes, then execute them, preferably in public so we at least get a laugh out of the whole thing. Apologise to the world and Iraq, withdraw all our troops and offer to clean the country up and pay reparations to victims.

For a start...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The Prime Minister was simply saying that those who objected to this legislation should provide an alternative argument to how else the problems we faced could be solved&quot;</p>
<p>Easy. Sack the government, including any MP who voted against the wishes of their constituents and for the illegal invasion of Iraq. Try the government, especially Tony Bliar and Jack Straw, for war crimes, then execute them, preferably in public so we at least get a laugh out of the whole thing. Apologise to the world and Iraq, withdraw all our troops and offer to clean the country up and pay reparations to victims.</p>
<p>For a start&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3709</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3709</guid>
		<description>&#34;Following 7/7 the police had said to us that they believed that these kinds of powers were necessary, particularly the 3 month detention period. &#34;

The police, and especially &#34;Sir&#34; Ian Bliar, are lying bastards; they said the assassination of Jean Charles de Menezes was necessary and they lied. The government are lying bastards too; they said there were WMD in Iraq and we therefore had to invade them; that was a lie. They've told many others. Why should we believe they NEED these powers, especially when the supposed reason (&#34;terrorism&#34;) is so patently the government's own work anyway? They've effectively delegitmised themselves by their words and actions; I for one will never believe a word a politician says again. Not that I believed a great deal before, mind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Following 7/7 the police had said to us that they believed that these kinds of powers were necessary, particularly the 3 month detention period. &quot;</p>
<p>The police, and especially &quot;Sir&quot; Ian Bliar, are lying bastards; they said the assassination of Jean Charles de Menezes was necessary and they lied. The government are lying bastards too; they said there were WMD in Iraq and we therefore had to invade them; that was a lie. They&#8217;ve told many others. Why should we believe they NEED these powers, especially when the supposed reason (&quot;terrorism&quot;) is so patently the government&#8217;s own work anyway? They&#8217;ve effectively delegitmised themselves by their words and actions; I for one will never believe a word a politician says again. Not that I believed a great deal before, mind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3708</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3708</guid>
		<description>&#34;Fixed penalty notices and so on did do that.&#34;

Bollocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Fixed penalty notices and so on did do that.&quot;</p>
<p>Bollocks.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3707</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3707</guid>
		<description>&#34;What was required was a balance between on the one hand the need for justice to have been seen to have been done in terms of the police visibly acting to stop low level thuggery.&#34;

No. What is needed is a stop put to police thuggery. How can anyone in this government have the gall to mention police and justice in the same breath after the cold-blooded extermination of Jean Charles de Menezes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;What was required was a balance between on the one hand the need for justice to have been seen to have been done in terms of the police visibly acting to stop low level thuggery.&quot;</p>
<p>No. What is needed is a stop put to police thuggery. How can anyone in this government have the gall to mention police and justice in the same breath after the cold-blooded extermination of Jean Charles de Menezes?</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3706</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3706</guid>
		<description>&#34;It was interesting that in the bulk of fixed penalty notices people had not done so.&#34;

That's because the process has been made deliberately as difficult as possible to challenge; it just isn't worth people's time to get into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It was interesting that in the bulk of fixed penalty notices people had not done so.&quot;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the process has been made deliberately as difficult as possible to challenge; it just isn&#8217;t worth people&#8217;s time to get into it.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3705</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/10/11/1824#comment-3705</guid>
		<description>&#34;Even in those circumstances, as with fixed penalty notices now, people could challenge them and could take up the issue in court&#34;...

...&#34;although of course we've made that process as difficult as humanly possible in the hope that as few as possible challenge fixed penalties...&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Even in those circumstances, as with fixed penalty notices now, people could challenge them and could take up the issue in court&quot;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&quot;although of course we&#8217;ve made that process as difficult as humanly possible in the hope that as few as possible challenge fixed penalties&#8230;&quot;</p>
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