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	<title>Comments on: Sir Ian Blair/London Terror</title>
	<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/22/1786</link>
	<description>Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chuck Unsworth</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/22/1786#comment-3453</link>
		<author>Chuck Unsworth</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PMS is in full ostrich mode.  

Anyone may comment on this matter - it's not currently the subject of legal procedings - and Downing Street itself has regularly commented on other matters whilst such 'investigations' are taking place.  

The public presses are stuffed with comment on the matter, and will be so for many months.

It's interesting, even entertaining, to see the various battle lines being drawn.  

In the meantime Charles and Hazel down at the Home Office have published their list of 'bad things' which people will not be allowed to do and say.  How absolutely inane....  

The lawyers will love this.  No doubt many of them are basing their plans for luxurious retirement and massive pension schemes upon the resultant and forthcoming legislation, litigation, test cases etc.  But maybe Matrix Chambers needs the extra work.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PMS is in full ostrich mode.  </p>
<p>Anyone may comment on this matter - it&#8217;s not currently the subject of legal procedings - and Downing Street itself has regularly commented on other matters whilst such &#8216;investigations&#8217; are taking place.  </p>
<p>The public presses are stuffed with comment on the matter, and will be so for many months.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting, even entertaining, to see the various battle lines being drawn.  </p>
<p>In the meantime Charles and Hazel down at the Home Office have published their list of &#8216;bad things&#8217; which people will not be allowed to do and say.  How absolutely inane&#8230;.  </p>
<p>The lawyers will love this.  No doubt many of them are basing their plans for luxurious retirement and massive pension schemes upon the resultant and forthcoming legislation, litigation, test cases etc.  But maybe Matrix Chambers needs the extra work.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/22/1786#comment-3449</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly; just ask Lee Jones (paratrooper jailed for murder after shooting at a car which refused to stop at a checkpoint in N.I.) 

It's ok when it suits 'em...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly; just ask Lee Jones (paratrooper jailed for murder after shooting at a car which refused to stop at a checkpoint in N.I.) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok when it suits &#8216;em&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Uncarved Block</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/22/1786#comment-3448</link>
		<author>Uncarved Block</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The investigation into the attacks on the London Tube led to CCTV clips being shown, full details of the attacks being disclosed and arrests being made in days. 

Based on what I've seen this appears to show that we have an effective and proffessional bunch of people working in the security forces and we should all be glad of that.

However, we know that an innocent man was killed on a tube train. We know who did it (or at least the police do) and there plenty of eyewitnesses, including members of the security forces. 

Yet weeks later there is no CCTV footage, no details of why the man was shot and no-one has been arrested. 

Its difficult to claim that the same security forces are now a bunch of incompetent fools who can't run an investigation properly. So the only conclusion we are left with is that they are deliberately covering this up.

On a secondary point, just because some politician or official announces a 'shoot to kill' policy it does not mean that the police (or anyone else) are no longer subject to British law. If you kill someone your only defense can be that you were acting in self-defence or to protect the lives of others. If you shoot an unarmed man while he is clearly posing no threat to anyone you have committed murder.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The investigation into the attacks on the London Tube led to CCTV clips being shown, full details of the attacks being disclosed and arrests being made in days. </p>
<p>Based on what I&#8217;ve seen this appears to show that we have an effective and proffessional bunch of people working in the security forces and we should all be glad of that.</p>
<p>However, we know that an innocent man was killed on a tube train. We know who did it (or at least the police do) and there plenty of eyewitnesses, including members of the security forces. </p>
<p>Yet weeks later there is no CCTV footage, no details of why the man was shot and no-one has been arrested. </p>
<p>Its difficult to claim that the same security forces are now a bunch of incompetent fools who can&#8217;t run an investigation properly. So the only conclusion we are left with is that they are deliberately covering this up.</p>
<p>On a secondary point, just because some politician or official announces a &#8217;shoot to kill&#8217; policy it does not mean that the police (or anyone else) are no longer subject to British law. If you kill someone your only defense can be that you were acting in self-defence or to protect the lives of others. If you shoot an unarmed man while he is clearly posing no threat to anyone you have committed murder.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaLazzzaru</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/22/1786#comment-3446</link>
		<author>PapaLazzzaru</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/22/1786#comment-3446</guid>
		<description>Here we go again...

&#34;It's not appropriate to comment&#34;... Until, of course, it's too late for anyone to do anything about it.

&#34;the PMS said the Prime Minister had full confidence in the Commissioner in all areas.&#34; Which makes the PM as guilty of lying and deceiving the country as &#34;Sir&#34; Ian Bliar (are these two liars related?!) Like we didn't know that already...

&#34;The Prime Minister was well aware that thousands of people used public transport in London every day and that there was a lot of work going on to protect people as they went about their business.&#34; Like sending in the bloody SAS with orders to shoot to kill? Is that protecting us? Jesus!!!

&#34;The Prime Minister recognised that the Metropolitan Police, led by Sir Ian Blair did a very difficult job in difficult circumstances, and that they did that job very well.&#34; What good job?! Killing innocents to protect the real perpetrators of the 7/7 blasts? And lying about it? You could only call that &#34;doing a good job&#34; if you stand to be exposed as a traitor should the truth get out.

As an aside, I hear Tony Bliar has been offered a job with the Carlysle Group in the US once he has finished destroying the last vestiges of British democracy; maybe that is what Dubya offered him back in summer 2002 - you go along with us in Iraq and we'll make sure you're all right. I also read yesterday that the UK is to send 2,500 paratroopers to Afghanistan; I'd like to know when Bliars kids are going to sign up to help fight the &#34;War on Terra&#34; along with Dubyas. I won't be holding my breath...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again&#8230;</p>
<p>&quot;It&#8217;s not appropriate to comment&quot;&#8230; Until, of course, it&#8217;s too late for anyone to do anything about it.</p>
<p>&quot;the PMS said the Prime Minister had full confidence in the Commissioner in all areas.&quot; Which makes the PM as guilty of lying and deceiving the country as &quot;Sir&quot; Ian Bliar (are these two liars related?!) Like we didn&#8217;t know that already&#8230;</p>
<p>&quot;The Prime Minister was well aware that thousands of people used public transport in London every day and that there was a lot of work going on to protect people as they went about their business.&quot; Like sending in the bloody SAS with orders to shoot to kill? Is that protecting us? Jesus!!!</p>
<p>&quot;The Prime Minister recognised that the Metropolitan Police, led by Sir Ian Blair did a very difficult job in difficult circumstances, and that they did that job very well.&quot; What good job?! Killing innocents to protect the real perpetrators of the 7/7 blasts? And lying about it? You could only call that &quot;doing a good job&quot; if you stand to be exposed as a traitor should the truth get out.</p>
<p>As an aside, I hear Tony Bliar has been offered a job with the Carlysle Group in the US once he has finished destroying the last vestiges of British democracy; maybe that is what Dubya offered him back in summer 2002 - you go along with us in Iraq and we&#8217;ll make sure you&#8217;re all right. I also read yesterday that the UK is to send 2,500 paratroopers to Afghanistan; I&#8217;d like to know when Bliars kids are going to sign up to help fight the &quot;War on Terra&quot; along with Dubyas. I won&#8217;t be holding my breath&#8230;</p>
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