Comments on: Anti-terror proposals http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783 Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:56:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: PapaLazzzaru http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3517 PapaLazzzaru Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:10:54 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3517 Absolutely true; even so, it'll still happen regardless of who or how many know the truth. My personal view is that we're approaching the end of the oil age (if we haven't already reached it) and the Plutocracy are positioning themselves to subjugate the masses in order that they don't have to sacrifice TOO much of their own lifestyle when the crash comes. Personally I think that's a forlorn hope and a pretty lame & defeatist attitude, but one you'd pretty much expect from the rich elite. It would be much better for us all if we pulled together now before it's completely too late - with all the technology & intelligence available today, surely a Manhatten Project to develop environmentally safe renewable energy sources would not be completely beyond the bounds of possibility? Sadly, that will never happen - not unless the Plutocracy themselves were directly threatened and had no chance of making any profit into the bargain. Then we'd see such an initiative launched in minutes... I also believe that the 7/7 bombers were nothing more than patsies and the whole thing was a stunt with the backing of our "government" headed by the murderer Bliar. There is too much evidence of planted witnesses, with others being ignored whose accounts were stronger; prior warnings; coincidental exercises run by a company who now refuse to speak to anyone; accounts of police shootings elsewhere; Mossad involvement with Underground CCTV; cancelled trains from Luton which would have made the "bombers" journeys impossible that day anyway; and so on. The purpose? Isn't it obvious?! Absolutely true; even so, it’ll still happen regardless of who or how many know the truth. My personal view is that we’re approaching the end of the oil age (if we haven’t already reached it) and the Plutocracy are positioning themselves to subjugate the masses in order that they don’t have to sacrifice TOO much of their own lifestyle when the crash comes. Personally I think that’s a forlorn hope and a pretty lame & defeatist attitude, but one you’d pretty much expect from the rich elite. It would be much better for us all if we pulled together now before it’s completely too late - with all the technology & intelligence available today, surely a Manhatten Project to develop environmentally safe renewable energy sources would not be completely beyond the bounds of possibility? Sadly, that will never happen - not unless the Plutocracy themselves were directly threatened and had no chance of making any profit into the bargain. Then we’d see such an initiative launched in minutes…

I also believe that the 7/7 bombers were nothing more than patsies and the whole thing was a stunt with the backing of our "government" headed by the murderer Bliar. There is too much evidence of planted witnesses, with others being ignored whose accounts were stronger; prior warnings; coincidental exercises run by a company who now refuse to speak to anyone; accounts of police shootings elsewhere; Mossad involvement with Underground CCTV; cancelled trains from Luton which would have made the "bombers" journeys impossible that day anyway; and so on. The purpose? Isn’t it obvious?!

]]> By: Paul http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3516 Paul Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:39:48 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3516 The anti-terror proposals and "new laws" have nothing to do with stopping terrorism, and everything to do with big brother control. The Nazi's in Germany and Communists in Russia are good example of governments that desired complete control over their citizens for obvious reasons. The many "lapses" of security over the past couple of years at the "House Of Commons" the Palace and winsor and the fact that all of the London bombers were British nationals show that none of these new messures would have had any effect what so ever on any one that seriously wanted to launch a terrorist attack in the UK. Similary in the US - the 9/11 bombers were Saudis so we decide to invade Iraq (good move)... Hence - These new measures have nothing to do with Terrorism and everything to do with control... The anti-terror proposals and "new laws" have nothing to do with stopping terrorism, and everything to do with big brother control. The Nazi’s in Germany and Communists in Russia are good example of governments that desired complete control over their citizens for obvious reasons.

The many "lapses" of security over the past couple of years at the "House Of Commons" the Palace and winsor and the fact that all of the London bombers were British nationals show that none of these new messures would have had any effect what so ever on any one that seriously wanted to launch a terrorist attack in the UK. Similary in the US - the 9/11 bombers were Saudis so we decide to invade Iraq (good move)…

Hence - These new measures have nothing to do with Terrorism and everything to do with control…

]]> By: Uncarved Block http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3447 Uncarved Block Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:18:03 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3447 The latest test of whether Tony Blair is a hypocrite has surfaced: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4177664.stm Is Tony going to publicly condemn Pat Robertson and demand that Bush prosecute him for incitement to terrorism? If saying that you can understand why suicide bombers might decide to blow themselves up makes you an extremist then calling for the assassination of a democratically elected leader must surely make you a terrorist. The latest test of whether Tony Blair is a hypocrite has surfaced:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4177664.stm

Is Tony going to publicly condemn Pat Robertson and demand that Bush prosecute him for incitement to terrorism? If saying that you can understand why suicide bombers might decide to blow themselves up makes you an extremist then calling for the assassination of a democratically elected leader must surely make you a terrorist.

]]> By: roger http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3440 roger Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:29:12 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3440 Maybe when Tony Babes gets back from his hols he'll be able to solve the problem. Well - that will be a change - because nice words and sleight of hand won't do anything with this one (see also ASBO's and a whole list of other failed policies). Over to you Tone! How far we seem to have come from the halcyon (smoke filled?) days of "cool Britannia" - who likes (or can deal with) this reality stuff? Maybe when Tony Babes gets back from his hols he’ll be able to solve the problem.

Well - that will be a change - because nice words and sleight of hand won’t do anything with this one (see also ASBO’s and a whole list of other failed policies). Over to you Tone!
How far we seem to have come from the halcyon (smoke filled?) days of "cool Britannia" - who likes (or can deal with) this reality stuff?

]]> By: Chuck Unsworth http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3439 Chuck Unsworth Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:18:06 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3439 Who has been 'consulted'? A range of cronies and the usual intellectual pygmies? John Birt? Hazel Blears? Charles Clarke? etc etc. And for that matter are their views open to public scrutiny? This will lead to the customary assertions of 'wide public consultation' which doubtless will be deemed to 'strongly support' whatever crackpot scheme that is finally hatched. The reality is that no one in government has the slightest idea about what to do and they are desperately casting about for 'ideas' (so beloved of our Hazel). Headless chickens. Maybe when Blair gets back from his hols he'll be able to solve the problem. Meanwhile Clarke is having to appear to be 'in charge' whilst trying to repair the damage caused by Blears, Blunkett et al. But no one is going to have the courage to do anything without Tone fronting it, after all, he's really 'in charge'. Who has been ‘consulted’? A range of cronies and the usual intellectual pygmies? John Birt? Hazel Blears? Charles Clarke? etc etc. And for that matter are their views open to public scrutiny?

This will lead to the customary assertions of ‘wide public consultation’ which doubtless will be deemed to ’strongly support’ whatever crackpot scheme that is finally hatched.

The reality is that no one in government has the slightest idea about what to do and they are desperately casting about for ‘ideas’ (so beloved of our Hazel).

Headless chickens.

Maybe when Blair gets back from his hols he’ll be able to solve the problem. Meanwhile Clarke is having to appear to be ‘in charge’ whilst trying to repair the damage caused by Blears, Blunkett et al. But no one is going to have the courage to do anything without Tone fronting it, after all, he’s really ‘in charge’.

]]> By: roger http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3437 roger Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:59:39 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/08/15/1783#comment-3437 Once again, instead of the action of the 97 Govt, we see procrastination on immigration and deportation despite the warnings and problems their lack of action has already caused. This is too little too late - unless of course we get the now almost customary emotional backlash, similar to the gun issue, which will foul things up even more. Once again, instead of the action of the 97 Govt, we see procrastination on immigration and deportation despite the warnings and problems their lack of action has already caused. This is too little too late - unless of course we get the now almost customary emotional backlash, similar to the gun issue, which will foul things up even more.

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