Comments on: London explosions / legislation http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768 Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:59:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: PapaLazzzaru http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3355 PapaLazzzaru Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:44:08 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3355 What would you advise our politicians do? I'd ask them to behave like the responsible managers they are supposed to be and get them to reform the whole structure of government initially. No organisation can survive without effective leadership - and that's where we are right now. A properly thought out democratic government, fairly elected, and without vested interests might even be able to solve a few problems by addressing root causes, instead of the constant papering over cracks we've had since time immemorial in this country. Sadly, it's those very same vested interests which prevent any real reform. What would you advise our politicians do?

I’d ask them to behave like the responsible managers they are supposed to be and get them to reform the whole structure of government initially. No organisation can survive without effective leadership - and that’s where we are right now. A properly thought out democratic government, fairly elected, and without vested interests might even be able to solve a few problems by addressing root causes, instead of the constant papering over cracks we’ve had since time immemorial in this country.

Sadly, it’s those very same vested interests which prevent any real reform.

]]> By: roger http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3353 roger Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:16:23 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3353 What would you advise our politicians do? Don't panic. Begin to reform the judiciary and reduce the powers of lawyers so that they cannot make the law look an ass. Remove/repeal some laws. Increase immigration control FOR ALL RACES. Make work permits stick - it is easy to do and control things if you know how and proven technology is out there. Make citizenship rather harder to achieve (as in Switzerland for instance) and deportation, includiung to one's country of origin where one may be "wanted" easier, quicker and FINAL - which increases RESPECT of UK as a country and also its laws. Increase parental responsibility, increase discipline in schools and on streets, give the police back the power to assist with this. Remove cronies and try to reduce gravy trains, reduce government - all in an effort to increase individual responsbility for one's own actions - would all be a start. The probelm is not quite as simple as the question and cannot be answered in a forum such as this - as you should well know. What would you advise our politicians do?

Don’t panic. Begin to reform the judiciary and reduce the powers of lawyers so that they cannot make the law look an ass. Remove/repeal some laws.
Increase immigration control FOR ALL RACES. Make work permits stick - it is easy to do and control things if you know how and proven technology is out there. Make citizenship rather harder to achieve (as in Switzerland for instance) and deportation, includiung to one’s country of origin where one may be "wanted" easier, quicker and FINAL - which increases RESPECT of UK as a country and also its laws. Increase parental responsibility, increase discipline in schools and on streets, give the police back the power to assist with this. Remove cronies and try to reduce gravy trains, reduce government - all in an effort to increase individual responsbility for one’s own actions - would all be a start. The probelm is not quite as simple as the question and cannot be answered in a forum such as this - as you should well know.

]]> By: Peter Fordham http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3352 Peter Fordham Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:56:36 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3352 I would advise our politicians stop telling everybody how to run their own lives, the PC brigade have stopped parents, and schools from any form of discipline over children. They have tied the hands of the police to uphold any form of standards from teenagers, and have filled children's heads with nonsense about 'Their Rights'. Why does the UK need 650 politicians when the US can do with 100, perhaps it is just a job creation scheme for the useless who cannot get worthwhile jobs anywhere else. So in short, let ordinary people take control of their own lives and keep the politicians noses out, then life will return to the norms of the past. I would advise our politicians stop telling everybody how to run their own lives, the PC brigade have stopped parents, and schools from any form of discipline over children. They have tied the hands of the police to uphold any form of standards from teenagers, and have filled children’s heads with nonsense about ‘Their Rights’.

Why does the UK need 650 politicians when the US can do with 100, perhaps it is just a job creation scheme for the useless who cannot get worthwhile jobs anywhere else.

So in short, let ordinary people take control of their own lives and keep the politicians noses out, then life will return to the norms of the past.

]]> By: Peter Fordham http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3351 Peter Fordham Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:56:02 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3351 I would advise our politicians stop telling everybody how to run their own lives, the PC brigade have stopped parents, and schools from any form of discipline over children. They have tied the hands of the police to uphold any form of standards from teenagers, and have filled children's heads with nonsense about 'Their Rights'. Why does the UK need 650 politicians when the US can do with 100, perhaps it is just a job creation scheme for the useless who cannot get worthwhile jobs anywhere else. So in short, let ordinary people take control of their own lives and keep the politicians noses out, then life will return to the norms of the past. I would advise our politicians stop telling everybody how to run their own lives, the PC brigade have stopped parents, and schools from any form of discipline over children. They have tied the hands of the police to uphold any form of standards from teenagers, and have filled children’s heads with nonsense about ‘Their Rights’.

Why does the UK need 650 politicians when the US can do with 100, perhaps it is just a job creation scheme for the useless who cannot get worthwhile jobs anywhere else.

So in short, let ordinary people take control of their own lives and keep the politicians noses out, then life will return to the norms of the past.

]]> By: Peter Fordham http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3350 Peter Fordham Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:55:33 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3350 I would advise our politicians stop telling everybody how to run their own lives, the PC brigade have stopped parents, and schools from any form of discipline over children. They have tied the hands of the police to uphold any form of standards from teenagers, and have filled children's heads with nonsense about 'Their Rights'. Why does the UK need 650 politicians when the US can do with 100, perhaps it is just a job creation scheme for the useless who cannot get worthwhile jobs anywhere else. So in short, let ordinary people take control of their own lives and keep the politicians noses out, then life will return to the norms of the past. I would advise our politicians stop telling everybody how to run their own lives, the PC brigade have stopped parents, and schools from any form of discipline over children. They have tied the hands of the police to uphold any form of standards from teenagers, and have filled children’s heads with nonsense about ‘Their Rights’.

Why does the UK need 650 politicians when the US can do with 100, perhaps it is just a job creation scheme for the useless who cannot get worthwhile jobs anywhere else.

So in short, let ordinary people take control of their own lives and keep the politicians noses out, then life will return to the norms of the past.

]]> By: Lee Butcher http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3348 Lee Butcher Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:44:39 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3348 What would you advise our politicians do? What would you advise our politicians do?

]]> By: roger http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3347 roger Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:26:53 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3347 What we are seeing now, alas, is the poredictable result of a total lack of interest and control in immigration. Sadly, if this government follows most, the resultant legal "backlash" against perceived possible trouble makers will do none of us any good. Its going to be too little too late and will probably not be fully supported by the judiciary. An example is our gun laws - the strongest on the planet - and we have more gun crime than ever before don't we? ASBO's are proving to be another failure especially after the recent legal case. Our politicians, and particularly Tony babes who seems to think he can control everything with a few fine words, need some imagination in dealing with these problems and since they use the "same old" same old people for advice we seem to have the needle stuck in the "same old" groove don't we? What we are seeing now, alas, is the poredictable result of a total lack of interest and control in immigration. Sadly, if this government follows most, the resultant legal "backlash" against perceived possible trouble makers will do none of us any good. Its going to be too little too late and will probably not be fully supported by the judiciary.
An example is our gun laws - the strongest on the planet - and we have more gun crime than ever before don’t we?
ASBO’s are proving to be another failure especially after the recent legal case.
Our politicians, and particularly Tony babes who seems to think he can control everything with a few fine words, need some imagination in dealing with these problems and since they use the "same old" same old people for advice we seem to have the needle stuck in the "same old" groove don’t we?

]]> By: roger http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3346 roger Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:26:26 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/07/21/1768#comment-3346 What we are seeing now, alas, is the poredictable result of a total lack of interest and control in immigration. Sadly, if this government follows most, the resultant legal "backlash" against perceived possible trouble makers will do none of us any good. Its going to be too little too late and will probably not be fully supported by the judiciary. An example is our gun laws - the strongest on the planet - and we have more gun crime than ever before don't we? ASBO's are proving to be another failure especially after the recent legal case. Our politicians, and particularly Tony babes who seems to think he can control everything with a few fine words, need some imagination in dealing with these problems and since they use the "same old" same old people for advice we seem to have the needle stuck in the "same old" groove don't we? What we are seeing now, alas, is the poredictable result of a total lack of interest and control in immigration. Sadly, if this government follows most, the resultant legal "backlash" against perceived possible trouble makers will do none of us any good. Its going to be too little too late and will probably not be fully supported by the judiciary.
An example is our gun laws - the strongest on the planet - and we have more gun crime than ever before don’t we?
ASBO’s are proving to be another failure especially after the recent legal case.
Our politicians, and particularly Tony babes who seems to think he can control everything with a few fine words, need some imagination in dealing with these problems and since they use the "same old" same old people for advice we seem to have the needle stuck in the "same old" groove don’t we?

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