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	<title>Comments on: EU Finance</title>
	<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/15/1666</link>
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		<title>By: I Stock</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/15/1666#comment-3112</link>
		<author>I Stock</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, because the only viable alternative is worse: the perpetrators of those disasters in the '80s that you mentioned.

One thing that is needed is an electoral system that properly represents the people - e.g. one of the better forms of PR. I know all the cliched arguments against it, but at least it would reduce the likelihood of whichever bunch are in power from simply becoming the new establishment and finding that it is more in their interest to perpetuate past iniquities than change them.

&#34;If this country is going to play an active part in the E.U...&#34; Well that's a big IF. The current government is no better than all the previous ones - it has realised that the E.U. does represent a real challenge to its power, and is therefore actively making sure that this doesn't happen. That is what they mean when they say that they are 'actively engaged in Europe'.

What they haven't done is enact any domestic reforms to enable a better interface between Westminster and Brussels in the interest of better government or a more effective delivery of E.U. matters in the U.K.  The E.U. is still dealt with by the Foreign Office, can you believe? (What greater expresion of the true outlook could there be?); the Minister for Europe is not a full cabinet member; M.E.P.'s do not have equal recognition with M.P.'s; there is virtually no mechanism for communication with other nations on E.U. matters at domestic parliamentary level, and there is evidence that most M.P.'s know little and care less about Europe.

It's hardly surprising that most people feel'see that we get a bad deal from Brussels, but that is because our beloved national parliament has not seen fit to make it otherwise.

If you ask me, the E.U. ought to place our clowns in Westminster under &#34;Special Measures&#34;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, because the only viable alternative is worse: the perpetrators of those disasters in the &#8217;80s that you mentioned.</p>
<p>One thing that is needed is an electoral system that properly represents the people - e.g. one of the better forms of PR. I know all the cliched arguments against it, but at least it would reduce the likelihood of whichever bunch are in power from simply becoming the new establishment and finding that it is more in their interest to perpetuate past iniquities than change them.</p>
<p>&quot;If this country is going to play an active part in the E.U&#8230;&quot; Well that&#8217;s a big IF. The current government is no better than all the previous ones - it has realised that the E.U. does represent a real challenge to its power, and is therefore actively making sure that this doesn&#8217;t happen. That is what they mean when they say that they are &#8216;actively engaged in Europe&#8217;.</p>
<p>What they haven&#8217;t done is enact any domestic reforms to enable a better interface between Westminster and Brussels in the interest of better government or a more effective delivery of E.U. matters in the U.K.  The E.U. is still dealt with by the Foreign Office, can you believe? (What greater expresion of the true outlook could there be?); the Minister for Europe is not a full cabinet member; M.E.P.&#8217;s do not have equal recognition with M.P.&#8217;s; there is virtually no mechanism for communication with other nations on E.U. matters at domestic parliamentary level, and there is evidence that most M.P.&#8217;s know little and care less about Europe.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hardly surprising that most people feel&#8217;see that we get a bad deal from Brussels, but that is because our beloved national parliament has not seen fit to make it otherwise.</p>
<p>If you ask me, the E.U. ought to place our clowns in Westminster under &quot;Special Measures&quot;.</p>
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		<title>By: auntyq</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/15/1666#comment-3105</link>
		<author>auntyq</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what direction *are* we going in?  Who's driving?  Who's reading the map?  This whole issue reflects a history of poor management, little grasp of strategic short, medium or long-term thinking skills - oh yes, and an arrant disregard for the groundswell of public dissatisfaction with the standard of leadership in this country.  In a school, this situation leads straight to the dreaded &#34;Special Measures&#34; - ie when an outside authority takes over; in commerce, it ends up in financial failure; in marriage, the inevitable is divorce.  I could give many more straightforward analogies, but it's just too depressing... anyone remember the massive emigration in the early 80s of our brightest and best talent to other countries as an expression of disgust with the Government?  Guess what - it's happening all over again.  If this country is going to play an active part in the EU structure, we need a change of thinking.  Could this possibly mean a change of leadership? (rhetorical)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what direction *are* we going in?  Who&#8217;s driving?  Who&#8217;s reading the map?  This whole issue reflects a history of poor management, little grasp of strategic short, medium or long-term thinking skills - oh yes, and an arrant disregard for the groundswell of public dissatisfaction with the standard of leadership in this country.  In a school, this situation leads straight to the dreaded &quot;Special Measures&quot; - ie when an outside authority takes over; in commerce, it ends up in financial failure; in marriage, the inevitable is divorce.  I could give many more straightforward analogies, but it&#8217;s just too depressing&#8230; anyone remember the massive emigration in the early 80s of our brightest and best talent to other countries as an expression of disgust with the Government?  Guess what - it&#8217;s happening all over again.  If this country is going to play an active part in the EU structure, we need a change of thinking.  Could this possibly mean a change of leadership? (rhetorical)</p>
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