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	<title>Comments on: ID Cards</title>
	<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661</link>
	<description>Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'.</description>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3106</link>
		<author>John Smith</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3106</guid>
		<description>Are we really sure the Government can make it work.?
There is no evidence from their many other (failed) projects that they have the wherewithall to run it successfully</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we really sure the Government can make it work.?<br />
There is no evidence from their many other (failed) projects that they have the wherewithall to run it successfully</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Leonard</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3103</link>
		<author>Tim Leonard</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3103</guid>
		<description>Well... most of the 9/11 hijackers had passports.

All ID cards will do is cause us inconvenience, turn us into a police state... and do NOTHING to make us any safer.

Funny... Downing street seems to be very quiet about the Iraq invasion at the moment as where it usually would be trumping terrorism/etc. as the reason for these ID cards. (maybe they're avoiding the minutes being brought up right now?) - who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; most of the 9/11 hijackers had passports.</p>
<p>All ID cards will do is cause us inconvenience, turn us into a police state&#8230; and do NOTHING to make us any safer.</p>
<p>Funny&#8230; Downing street seems to be very quiet about the Iraq invasion at the moment as where it usually would be trumping terrorism/etc. as the reason for these ID cards. (maybe they&#8217;re avoiding the minutes being brought up right now?) - who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Unsworth</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3101</link>
		<author>Chuck Unsworth</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3101</guid>
		<description>There's no evidence to support the notion that ID Cards help to reduce crime or the possibility of terrorist attacks.  Which nation has shown or proved this to be the case?

If this moneymaking wheeze is (sponsored by) and given to the likes of EDS we can expect the cost to quadruple, the implementation timescale to triple and the actual effectiveness to be about half of that predicted.  There will be numerous 'teething problems' costing millions of pounds and, all the while, Ministers will be trotting out the old garbage about how much 'safer' we'll all be in our beds.
Take a look at the lamentable performances so far of virtually all of the vast computerisation schemes installed to date.  But you can bet that Tony's mates will do quite nicely thank you.

As to the PMS not having 'seen' the survey.  Well no change there, then.  Selective blindness and deafness seems regularly to strike behind the walls of Downing Street.  It's highly infectious, too, as other Government Departments seem to be badly affected.  These people need some sort of 'help' and medical care.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no evidence to support the notion that ID Cards help to reduce crime or the possibility of terrorist attacks.  Which nation has shown or proved this to be the case?</p>
<p>If this moneymaking wheeze is (sponsored by) and given to the likes of EDS we can expect the cost to quadruple, the implementation timescale to triple and the actual effectiveness to be about half of that predicted.  There will be numerous &#8216;teething problems&#8217; costing millions of pounds and, all the while, Ministers will be trotting out the old garbage about how much &#8217;safer&#8217; we&#8217;ll all be in our beds.<br />
Take a look at the lamentable performances so far of virtually all of the vast computerisation schemes installed to date.  But you can bet that Tony&#8217;s mates will do quite nicely thank you.</p>
<p>As to the PMS not having &#8217;seen&#8217; the survey.  Well no change there, then.  Selective blindness and deafness seems regularly to strike behind the walls of Downing Street.  It&#8217;s highly infectious, too, as other Government Departments seem to be badly affected.  These people need some sort of &#8216;help&#8217; and medical care.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Huffadine</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3100</link>
		<author>Roger Huffadine</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3100</guid>
		<description>Silicon.com a web based daily newsletter for the IT and Comms industries has, uncharacteristically, started a lobbying campaign asking the government to substantiate the case for ID cards

&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.silicon.com/research/specialreports/idcards/&#34;&#62;http://www.silicon.com/research/specialreports/idcards/&#60;/a&#62;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silicon.com a web based daily newsletter for the IT and Comms industries has, uncharacteristically, started a lobbying campaign asking the government to substantiate the case for ID cards</p>
<p>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.silicon.com/research/specialreports/idcards/&quot;&gt;http://www.silicon.com/research/specialreports/idcards/&lt;/a&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pooter</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3098</link>
		<author>Mr Pooter</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3098</guid>
		<description>Tell the public it costs \xA385 each and they'll hate ID cards.  Tell them only 'bad' people will suffer, that it will make their own life more secure, safe and simple, that it'll catch (all)welfare cheats, stop crime (entirely) and banish illegal immigration (at a stroke) and they'll love it.

The important statistic is that only 22% of the electorate voted for this government.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell the public it costs \xA385 each and they&#8217;ll hate ID cards.  Tell them only &#8216;bad&#8217; people will suffer, that it will make their own life more secure, safe and simple, that it&#8217;ll catch (all)welfare cheats, stop crime (entirely) and banish illegal immigration (at a stroke) and they&#8217;ll love it.</p>
<p>The important statistic is that only 22% of the electorate voted for this government.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lightfoot</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3095</link>
		<author>Chris Lightfoot</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/06/13/1661#comment-3095</guid>
		<description>For information, here is an extract from the No2ID press release about the poll:

&#34;Campaign group NO2ID (1) today released the results of an ICM poll of 1,000 people (2) commissioned last week, which indicates a significant drop in public support for ID cards to just 55% from the Government's claimed 80%. The survey shows that 43% of the population now think that ID cards are a bad or very bad idea.&#34;

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&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.no2id.net/news/pressRelease/release.php?name=Public%20support%20for%20ID%20cards%20collapses&#34;&#62;http://www.no2id.net/news/pressRelease/release.php?name=Public%20support%20for%20ID%20cards%20collapses&#60;/a&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For information, here is an extract from the No2ID press release about the poll:</p>
<p>&quot;Campaign group NO2ID (1) today released the results of an ICM poll of 1,000 people (2) commissioned last week, which indicates a significant drop in public support for ID cards to just 55% from the Government&#8217;s claimed 80%. The survey shows that 43% of the population now think that ID cards are a bad or very bad idea.&quot;</p>
<p>Full text:<br />
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.no2id.net/news/pressRelease/release.php?name=Public%20support%20for%20ID%20cards%20collapses&quot;&gt;http://www.no2id.net/news/pressRelease/release.php?name=Public%20support%20for%20ID%20cards%20collapses&lt;/a&gt;</p>
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