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	<title>Comments on: G8 Security Costs</title>
	<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613</link>
	<description>Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'.</description>
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		<title>By: Chuck Unsworth</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613#comment-3032</link>
		<author>Chuck Unsworth</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 13:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is actually impossible to assess the level of threat by examination of JIC views.  The JIC's comments about increased danger levels as a result of the invasion are mere statements of the bleeding obvious ( - and incidentally why are we paying these incompetents to trot out such platitudes?).

Conventional attacks upon distant countries never eliminate terrorist threats, even if those countries are entirely subjugated.  All that happens is the terrorists become martyrs or heroes - or both.  In the end, almost all terrorist groups have to be negotiated with.  That is the grim reality.  

And sadly one can cite all too many examples of terrorists becoming 'respected' national leaders.  Look at Bosnia, Ireland, Kenya, Malaysia, Zimbabwe, Israel, Palestine, Libya, Yemen, Chechnia etc etc.  The list is infinite.

Still, let's not get too downhearted, eh?  - One man's terrorist being another's freedom fighter and respected national hero.  What about William Tell, for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is actually impossible to assess the level of threat by examination of JIC views.  The JIC&#8217;s comments about increased danger levels as a result of the invasion are mere statements of the bleeding obvious ( - and incidentally why are we paying these incompetents to trot out such platitudes?).</p>
<p>Conventional attacks upon distant countries never eliminate terrorist threats, even if those countries are entirely subjugated.  All that happens is the terrorists become martyrs or heroes - or both.  In the end, almost all terrorist groups have to be negotiated with.  That is the grim reality.  </p>
<p>And sadly one can cite all too many examples of terrorists becoming &#8216;respected&#8217; national leaders.  Look at Bosnia, Ireland, Kenya, Malaysia, Zimbabwe, Israel, Palestine, Libya, Yemen, Chechnia etc etc.  The list is infinite.</p>
<p>Still, let&#8217;s not get too downhearted, eh?  - One man&#8217;s terrorist being another&#8217;s freedom fighter and respected national hero.  What about William Tell, for example?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pooter</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613#comment-3031</link>
		<author>Mr Pooter</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 11:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613#comment-3031</guid>
		<description>Our leaders work tirelessly to improve the world for us.  Such selfless endeavours should be praised and feted and every word uttered by them should be disseminated free to all peoples of the world.  Their images should grace our houses and their statues our parks.  Not even a corner shop should open without a plaque in their names.  Fresh flower petals should scent and comfort their every step and even their long suffering spouses should also be rewarded with shop discount vouchers and speaking tours.  Those who project our wise leaders for our obeisance should also be given packs of trinkets and plenty of booze as their reward.  

If we did things properly they would be so overwhelmed by the adulation they could leave us alone.  Short of that they will tend to ever more attention seeking wars and promises to feed the world with their half-baked dreams. 

All power to G8, I say.  Let\x92s have one every week.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our leaders work tirelessly to improve the world for us.  Such selfless endeavours should be praised and feted and every word uttered by them should be disseminated free to all peoples of the world.  Their images should grace our houses and their statues our parks.  Not even a corner shop should open without a plaque in their names.  Fresh flower petals should scent and comfort their every step and even their long suffering spouses should also be rewarded with shop discount vouchers and speaking tours.  Those who project our wise leaders for our obeisance should also be given packs of trinkets and plenty of booze as their reward.  </p>
<p>If we did things properly they would be so overwhelmed by the adulation they could leave us alone.  Short of that they will tend to ever more attention seeking wars and promises to feed the world with their half-baked dreams. </p>
<p>All power to G8, I say.  Let\x92s have one every week.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron F</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613#comment-3030</link>
		<author>Ron F</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 18:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613#comment-3030</guid>
		<description>Chuck - on the contrary, the invasion of Iraq has INCREASED the threat of terrorism, as Blair was explicitly warned by the JIC, who said - 

&#34;The JIC assessed that al-Qaida and associated groups continued to represent by far the greatest terrorist threat to Western interests, and that threat would be heightened by military action against Iraq.&#34; p.34

&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/reports/isc/&#34;&#62;http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/reports/isc/&#60;/a&#62;

We now also know, from the Downing Street memo, that the decision to invade had been taken at least by July 2002, prior to the charade over inspections, which were designed to fail.

If you check a dictionary for the word for someone who tells a pack of lies that knowingly endanger the country you'll find the word is traitor. That charge should be added to Tony Blair's rap sheet, along with war criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck - on the contrary, the invasion of Iraq has INCREASED the threat of terrorism, as Blair was explicitly warned by the JIC, who said - </p>
<p>&quot;The JIC assessed that al-Qaida and associated groups continued to represent by far the greatest terrorist threat to Western interests, and that threat would be heightened by military action against Iraq.&quot; p.34</p>
<p>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/reports/isc/&quot;&gt;http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/reports/isc/&lt;/a&gt;</p>
<p>We now also know, from the Downing Street memo, that the decision to invade had been taken at least by July 2002, prior to the charade over inspections, which were designed to fail.</p>
<p>If you check a dictionary for the word for someone who tells a pack of lies that knowingly endanger the country you&#8217;ll find the word is traitor. That charge should be added to Tony Blair&#8217;s rap sheet, along with war criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Unsworth</title>
		<link>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613#comment-3021</link>
		<author>Chuck Unsworth</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 13:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/05/23/1613#comment-3021</guid>
		<description>To say that people from all over the world will be focussed on Gleneagles and Scotland is pure fantasy.  Most people have more pressing things to concern them.  The PMOS hasn't a clue as to why they are even having this junket.  Apparently, the PMOS thinks that Scotland is the sole beneficiary of the G8 piss-up.  If so, the Scots should pick up the tab.

If there has been a genuine escalation in danger to the nation one might wonder how this has come about.  It's difficult to believe that the huge expense (in more ways than one) of the Iraq adventure/fiasco has actually served to increase national security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say that people from all over the world will be focussed on Gleneagles and Scotland is pure fantasy.  Most people have more pressing things to concern them.  The PMOS hasn&#8217;t a clue as to why they are even having this junket.  Apparently, the PMOS thinks that Scotland is the sole beneficiary of the G8 piss-up.  If so, the Scots should pick up the tab.</p>
<p>If there has been a genuine escalation in danger to the nation one might wonder how this has come about.  It&#8217;s difficult to believe that the huge expense (in more ways than one) of the Iraq adventure/fiasco has actually served to increase national security.</p>
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