Comments on: Northern Ireland http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/02/10/1425 Every day the Prime Minister's Spokesman meets a small coterie of political journalists known as 'the lobby' for a topical chat, or 'briefing'. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:48:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: James Hernon http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/02/10/1425#comment-3540 James Hernon Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:18:01 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/02/10/1425#comment-3540 The real situation was an attempt to bankrupt northern ireland and the society in the North and grab some monies for buying of weapons to arm or buy arms for groups who have no interest in seeing peace succeed. There may have been spooks who knew what was going to happen... who knows except the Government. But to say that the British Gov is responsible due to some pre-information is ridiculous as they didnt come up with the bank robbery plan in the first place. I remmber reading of an MI6 plan which involved sending robbers to rob banks in the republic and then blame the ira but his doesnt seem to have any benefit to the British Goverment! by my analysis anyhow. You have to ask yourself who needs this amount of money and what they want to use it for? Whether or not the PIRA had any connection... I think it was ex PIRA who defected to RIRA. But others may have better information than me... it just seems more logical. The real situation was an attempt to bankrupt northern ireland and the society in the North and grab some monies for buying of weapons to arm or buy arms for groups who have no interest in seeing peace succeed. There may have been spooks who knew what was going to happen… who knows except the Government. But to say that the British Gov is responsible due to some pre-information is ridiculous as they didnt come up with the bank robbery plan in the first place. I remmber reading of an MI6 plan which involved sending robbers to rob banks in the republic and then blame the ira but his doesnt seem to have any benefit to the British Goverment! by my analysis anyhow. You have to ask yourself who needs this amount of money and what they want to use it for? Whether or not the PIRA had any connection… I think it was ex PIRA who defected to RIRA. But others may have better information than me… it just seems more logical.

]]> By: PapaLazzzaru http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/02/10/1425#comment-2694 PapaLazzzaru Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:30:03 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/02/10/1425#comment-2694 I seem to remember also that it was "palpably absurd" that there were no WMD in Iraq; then this palpable absurdity became reality and there WERE no WMD in Iraq. I also remember B.Liar swearing, hand on heart, that he knew nothing of what had gone on with David Kelly; another lie. Tony B.Liar is a proven liar, end of story. Why should we believe a single word he says, ever, on any subject? The man is a out and out charlatan who has broken promise after promise, and lied to the country with breathtaking regularity. Right Honourable?!?! Don't make me puke!!! There isn't a single Right Honourable among the whole sorry shower, and the least honourable of the lot is the man at the top. I could advance a handful of reasons why the security services should want to blame the IRA for this robbery, not least because any kind of conflict is big business and the UK arms industry is one of the worlds biggest. I'm not saying that IS the case, but the constant lies and dissembling by this government leaves one with no other option but to suspect some kind of self-serving shenanigans. As Roger says above, put up or shut up B.Liar (or more preferably, dissappear in a big puff of poisonous gas...) I seem to remember also that it was "palpably absurd" that there were no WMD in Iraq; then this palpable absurdity became reality and there WERE no WMD in Iraq.

I also remember B.Liar swearing, hand on heart, that he knew nothing of what had gone on with David Kelly; another lie.

Tony B.Liar is a proven liar, end of story. Why should we believe a single word he says, ever, on any subject? The man is a out and out charlatan who has broken promise after promise, and lied to the country with breathtaking regularity. Right Honourable?!?! Don’t make me puke!!! There isn’t a single Right Honourable among the whole sorry shower, and the least honourable of the lot is the man at the top.

I could advance a handful of reasons why the security services should want to blame the IRA for this robbery, not least because any kind of conflict is big business and the UK arms industry is one of the worlds biggest. I’m not saying that IS the case, but the constant lies and dissembling by this government leaves one with no other option but to suspect some kind of self-serving shenanigans. As Roger says above, put up or shut up B.Liar (or more preferably, dissappear in a big puff of poisonous gas…)

]]> By: Roger Huffadine http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/02/10/1425#comment-2690 Roger Huffadine Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:37:26 +0000 http://downingstreetsays.com/briefings/2005/02/10/1425#comment-2690 "..It was our view, as we had said previously, that it was inconceivable, given the seriousness of the robbery, that senior members of Sinn Fein did not know about it..." It is my view that the time is long past for Tony to put up or shut up over this issue. arrest someone, charge them, convict them - and demonstrate that they are members of Sinn Fein. Alternatively one could also speculate that if the spooks are close enough to the IRA to 'know' that the robbery was going to be conducted by the IRA then the spooks should also have taken steps to stop the robbery. If they chose not to intervene to protect their 'sources' then they too are complicit, which makes the PM an accessory before the fact. "..It was our view, as we had said previously, that it was inconceivable, given the seriousness of the robbery, that senior members of Sinn Fein did not know about it…"

It is my view that the time is long past for Tony to put up or shut up over this issue. arrest someone, charge them, convict them - and demonstrate that they are members of Sinn Fein.

Alternatively one could also speculate that if the spooks are close enough to the IRA to ‘know’ that the robbery was going to be conducted by the IRA then the spooks should also have taken steps to stop the robbery. If they chose not to intervene to protect their ’sources’ then they too are complicit, which makes the PM an accessory before the fact.

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