Comments on: Iraq

By: Roger Huffadine

Roger Huffadine — Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:45:54 +0000

I e-mailed the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague last week to ask what had happened to the papers lodged last year by the Greek authorities requesting the Trial of TB for ‘war crimes’. I haven’t had a reply……
Also there is nothing on their web site about it……
So even if a government asks for a trial - nothing happens - what a surprise.

By: tony

tony — Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:43:13 +0000

should do it properly and have him up on a war crimes tribunal.

i seem to remember before the war started tb saying that is was NOT about regime change…… maybe that was dodgy intelligence too

By: PapaLazzzaru

PapaLazzzaru — Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:34:05 +0000

It’s long past time…

By: Mysteron

Mysteron — Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:08:08 +0000

If the intelligence was wrong, why did Blair promote the mediocrity who claimed "ownership" of it? John Scarlett is clearly a total incompetent, and appointing such a useless specimen to head the security services further endangers this country, just like the invasion of Iraq, as Blair was warned.

It’s time to impeach Blair.

By: Colonel Mad

Colonel Mad — Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:32:06 +0000

I’m afraid that I cannot believe that anyone thought that Iraq posed a threat to us, intelligence or not, it just was not conceivable

By: PapaLazzzaru

PapaLazzzaru — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:01:37 +0000

Nice one Lodjer; couldn’t have put it better myself. And I also remember that there were those of us who were going around at the time it all unfolded saying to people "open your eyes for christ’ sake, can’t you SEE what’s happening?!" And of course we were dismissed as conspiracy theorists and lefty loonies by the great unwashed and unread who blindly followed bliars lies regurgitated and magnified by the tabloids. The very same people who are now saying "look, forget the past, let’s just concentrate on sorting the mess out", hoping never to be called to account. No, say I! Let us pull the troops out of Iraq - at the very least, let Bliar grow some cojones and at least use the threat to TRY to force Brush to go the UN route. If he refuses; fine, pull ‘em out - they should never have been there in the first bloody place!

By: Lodjer

Lodjer — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:19:22 +0000

If, in the build up to war, the situation had been known that there were no WMD, no immediate threat to any nation, and also no links between Al-Quaida and Saddam’s regime, then the proportion of the population supporting the war would have been smaller, and the number of MPs, of any party, supporting the war would have also been smaller. It is quite likely that we would not have entered into the war at all.

How fortunate then, how wonderfully fantastically coincidentally fortunate then, that all the intelligence was wrong. And that, in every paper, on every news show, in every political soundbite, every single day in the lead up to the war; we were threatened with the immediate threat from WMD and from international terrorism. And that these claims could be backed up by the intelligence. Which, coincidentally, through no fault of the people who wanted and set in motion the war, was wrong. Unfortunate that no one listened to the intelligence personnel who raised doubts about it; of course, and unfortunate that some pieces of intelligence were given perhaps too high a profile; but no-ones fault.

As for knocking down your own straw man, or as it is also called, "The Butler Report", well done!

Attacking Kennedy for holding a position which would have left Saddam in power; the quotes made by Bliar before the war show that he too, had he been in posession of the CORRECT (oh, how unfortunate!) information, would have left Saddam in power. Does this mean that Bliar and Kennedy actually wanted Saddam to remain in power? No, it doesn’t. But it does show that one of them has a grasp on a sense of legitimacy and democracy.

Good timing for the find of mass graves, Brush’s election coming up, and Bliar being under fire after the withdrawal of the intelligence. Coincidence? surely. Of course the Iraqi people will have to be held back from finding their relatives and loved ones; but don’t forget, the justice, and conviction of Saddam, is for Bliar and Brush, not the common people of Iraq.